Curse

Omega X · May 06, 2006, 07:47 PM // 19:47

/not signed

Blood won't make the game play any different.

Not to mention that the ESRB is already on a rampage about ratings as it is.

EternalTempest · May 06, 2006, 07:52 PM // 19:52

/Signed

But the amount of realistic blood pool may be enough to get pushed to "M".

derrtyboy69 · May 06, 2006, 08:27 PM // 20:27

/signed

I dont see any reason at all not to have it optional. Now i dont want huge amounts of blood everywhere, but just a small amount to make it more realistic.

Tarun · May 06, 2006, 09:36 PM // 21:36

/signed

I definitely want to see blood, especially when they have bleeding. Not just some stupid little red cloud with probably causes more lag than red ont he ground.

Fargin Scotchsman · May 07, 2006, 11:47 PM // 23:47

hmmm, one of the only games that has an m-rating that i can think of right now is ninja gaiden (kickass game yo). sure, u hack things to bits, but the amt of blood is sweet imo. ots incredibly realistic, cuz when u hit sumthin it bleeds, when sumthin hits u, u bleed. i like realism, annd imo, thas wut rpgs nowadays seem to be all about. optional is a good idea tho, that may be the thing that keeps the rationg down.

DaerunAxis · May 07, 2006, 11:57 PM // 23:57

/signed
only if it shows when my necro sacs health too!

Blessed Winds · May 08, 2006, 05:40 AM // 05:40

Some parents are careless enough to buy video games for their kids that include strippers and 1000 gallons of blood per enemy. Take GTA Vice City for example.
/signed.

Naqser · May 08, 2006, 08:57 AM // 08:57

I don't see why ppl DON'T see the OPTION part... "blood causes lag" surely it does, but it's optional.

another thing too, since when did ratings stop kids in the age of 12 to buy and/or play a game rated M? Generaly if the salesman /woman doesn't sell it to a kid, then the kid just goes to a friend that can buy the game or the parents.

/signed

Jo0Lz · May 08, 2006, 09:49 AM // 09:49

/SIGNED!

Would be a cool option!

Sax Dakota · May 08, 2006, 11:30 AM // 11:30

/notsigned

Doing so may change the rating of the game.

Undivine · May 08, 2006, 05:05 PM // 17:05

A couple things to consider here. First of all, there is Germany. Germany is absolutely hardcore against violence in video games. Since this is an international game, they will want to appeal to that.

Of course, they could just make the German version not even have the option, as so many other games do.

But secondly there is the issue with Jack Thompson. If you don't know who he is, he's a lawyer in the US who is really anti-video game. And the thing is, he's sort of making headway. Some politicians (like Hilary Clinton) are set on making the ratings more enforced. I'm not sure I neccessarily disagree with them, but we really need to see what's going to happen with that first. The very definitions of the ratings may actually change in the future in the states (which I wouldn't agree with, but then, I'm not in the states). In summery, ratings are a hot issue right now and ANet may want to stay on the side of caution.

Thirdly, making a change like this means they would have to have the ESRB re-rate the game. Actually, I kind of wonder if they can make this change. Can they do something that changes the rating to a game that has already been sold to people? A parent buys it for their child with one rating, and then a patch makes a change that raises the rating after the fact. I don't know if they can do that.

Having said all that, I don't think a little bit of blood neccessarily changes the rating. It's almost moot anyway since this game is online and they need the qualifier "gaming experience may change online."

A little blood wouldn't hurt, but it's not neccessary. And given the potential complications, I doubt they would put it in. If I believed it was as easy as just putting it in, I would sign this.

Tarun · May 10, 2006, 07:39 PM // 19:39

Quote:

Originally Posted by Undivine

A couple things to consider here. First of all, there is Germany. Germany is absolutely hardcore against violence in video games. Since this is an international game, they will want to appeal to that.

Of course, they could just make the German version not even have the option, as so many other games do.

But secondly there is the issue with Jack Thompson. If you don't know who he is, he's a lawyer in the US who is really anti-video game. And the thing is, he's sort of making headway. Some politicians (like Hilary Clinton) are set on making the ratings more enforced. I'm not sure I neccessarily disagree with them, but we really need to see what's going to happen with that first. The very definitions of the ratings may actually change in the future in the states (which I wouldn't agree with, but then, I'm not in the states). In summery, ratings are a hot issue right now and ANet may want to stay on the side of caution.

Thirdly, making a change like this means they would have to have the ESRB re-rate the game. Actually, I kind of wonder if they can make this change. Can they do something that changes the rating to a game that has already been sold to people? A parent buys it for their child with one rating, and then a patch makes a change that raises the rating after the fact. I don't know if they can do that.

Having said all that, I don't think a little bit of blood neccessarily changes the rating. It's almost moot anyway since this game is online and they need the qualifier "gaming experience may change online."

A little blood wouldn't hurt, but it's not neccessary. And given the potential complications, I doubt they would put it in. If I believed it was as easy as just putting it in, I would sign this.

Did you completely overlook the fact that she bolded the word OPTION; seems so. It'll add variety to the game and if people want to cry about it, just disable it and slap on a parental password. gg :P

Replicant · May 10, 2006, 07:39 PM // 19:39

/SIGNED! screw the ratings, governements, and parents! I want blood! lol.

would make the game more realistic... imho.

Dougal Kronik · May 10, 2006, 08:00 PM // 20:00

With the option to toggle on/off, and maybe parental locks.

/signed

Tarun · May 13, 2006, 11:31 PM // 23:31

Anyone else want to see some of the nice blood graphics from the beta days added back to being a part of mainstream GW?

Lepton CFd · May 14, 2006, 02:39 AM // 02:39

/signed

Blood FTW!

Zhou Feng · May 14, 2006, 06:21 AM // 06:21

/signed I too want to see the blood. I cant see and fail to see how this argument about "kids not playing it" Kids still get their hands on GTA every day and thats a hell lot worse then this game will ever be with blood.

floppinghog · May 14, 2006, 06:26 AM // 06:26

/signed

did anyone ever fall and cut their hand or knee? yeah we all bleed thanks. why does it have to be a secret..

Syris · May 14, 2006, 06:38 AM // 06:38

/signed

Who cares if they change the rating? It might weed out some 5 year olds from idling all day and dancing constantly while doing nothing for the game.

Undivine · May 14, 2006, 08:30 PM // 20:30

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tarun

Did you completely overlook the fact that she bolded the word OPTION; seems so.

No I did not. GTA got an adults only rating for the hot coffee scandal. That was not even put in as an option. It was beyond optional. It was locked out.

Though I don't think putting in blood would neccessarily change the rating, it's just not a sensible thing to do for ArenaNet. You can scream "screw the governement!" all you like, but that doesn't change the facts. Putting in blood could be headache for them and in the end it's inconsequential to the game anyway.